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new polling in two key swing states show romney is ahead. we will talk to two pollsters about what the latest numbers mean. and also a preview of next week's presidential debate after a miserable performance in the first. will president obama try to channel his inner biden? right back. >> laura: in the factor original section. ed as member is known for left wing politics. is he still supporting president obama? he recently sat down with bill o'reilly. >> i hear you are going to vote mitt romney coming up in november is that right? >> you said that, what? >> bill: mitt romney has your vote this november. >> i certainly don't brag about obama having my vote. i don't think he has been a strong leader. i think he has been deficient in his financial efforts in stimulating the economy. >> bill: see, let's just -- in case people don't know you. >> yeah. >> you are a socialist, right? >> yes. >> bill: you are a socialist? >> yeah. >> bill: when you hear people say barack obama is a socialist, you are a real socialist, you say. >> ha ha. >> ha ha, th
new polling in two key swing states show romney is ahead. we will talk to two pollsters about what the latest numbers mean. and also a preview of next week's presidential debate after a miserable performance in the first. will president obama try to channel his inner biden? right back. >> laura: in the factor original section. ed as member is known for left wing politics. is he still supporting president obama? he recently sat down with bill o'reilly. >> i hear you are going to vote...
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today that is usually a pretty good poll that shows romney with a very large lead in florida, i don't think he has that but they need to find a way so that going into the last two weeks with i the debates they hope helping them more they have got one or two or three paths to get to 27 at this, they are not if you talk to honest republicans they are not overwhelmingly confident that, you know, for months they said we would rather be us than them, i don't think you heard too many honest republicans saying that now but he think they have a chance if the next debate goes well, on the other side, their strategy is, their premise is we have got to lead, the electorial college is still very much tilting toward them and that they believe that their ground game is vastly enter superior, and early voting and the mechanics of turning people out on voting day they think are significantly better and i think based on what i have been able to learn that is not a crazy position to have and they want to go back to doing what they have done so well and i think you will see subterranean messaging on thi
today that is usually a pretty good poll that shows romney with a very large lead in florida, i don't think he has that but they need to find a way so that going into the last two weeks with i the debates they hope helping them more they have got one or two or three paths to get to 27 at this, they are not if you talk to honest republicans they are not overwhelmingly confident that, you know, for months they said we would rather be us than them, i don't think you heard too many honest...
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. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never disappointed. now it is october 2012 and the most compelling thing on television anywhere in the country is once again the debates. only now there are only two candidates at a time and the stakes are way higher. i'm rachel maddow. here on our msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm joined by ed schultz, reverend al sharpton, chris hayes, steve schmidt. lawrence o'donnell is our man in the spin room tonight. the one and only chris matthews is at centre college in danville, kentucky, the site of tonight's debate. chris, is this unusually high stakes for a vice presidential debate? >> well, it's great being with y
. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never...
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he says romney will win. >> i know they polled last night. >> bill: the only reason i'm bringing that up is you were dismissing the romney momentum and some people say it shouldn't be dismissed. bob beckel. directly ahead, laura ingraham on the security embarrassment in libya. later, megyn kelly, a big affirmative action case in texas. she's in kentucky and we'll get a preview of the debate from her point of view. all that after these messages he he he he he >> bill: in the impact segment tonight, new u.s. diplomat arrived in libya to take the place of christopher steves. that as criticism mounts over the obama administration protected the americans in that country. the obama campaign is calling all of the criticism political. >> the entire reason that this has become the political topic it is is because of mitt romney and paul ryan. it's a big part of their stump speech. and as reckless and irresponsible. >> bill: with all due respect to her, that's more bologna than you could possibly fit on any sandwich. joinings from washington, fox news analyst, laura ingraham. here is a question
he says romney will win. >> i know they polled last night. >> bill: the only reason i'm bringing that up is you were dismissing the romney momentum and some people say it shouldn't be dismissed. bob beckel. directly ahead, laura ingraham on the security embarrassment in libya. later, megyn kelly, a big affirmative action case in texas. she's in kentucky and we'll get a preview of the debate from her point of view. all that after these messages he he he he he >> bill: in the...
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let's look at the latest poll. from after the first debate. president obama in the lead still, 51% to romney's 45%. that's from after the first presidential debate. does governor romney have a path to the presidency without ohio? i know you're going to say that he will win ohio. can he win the presidency without it? >> he can probably win the presidency without ohio, but i wouldn't want to take the risk. no republican has. we're doing great in ohio. if you look at the average of all the polls, it's about dead even in ohio right now. the momentum is on our side. it's been terrific. i've been to half dozen rallies in the last week. i've never seen this energy and enthusiasm on the ground. we have already made three times more phone calls through the volunteers since 2008. we've knocked on 25 times more doors than 2008. something is going on on the ground. it's turning our way. the president will continue the attack, not focus on the substances of the issues that the people care about but continuing the attack. >> thank you, senator portman. we a
let's look at the latest poll. from after the first debate. president obama in the lead still, 51% to romney's 45%. that's from after the first presidential debate. does governor romney have a path to the presidency without ohio? i know you're going to say that he will win ohio. can he win the presidency without it? >> he can probably win the presidency without ohio, but i wouldn't want to take the risk. no republican has. we're doing great in ohio. if you look at the average of all the...
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romney trailed by eight points earlier in month in that poll. we look at the poll numbers and all the important electoral college count in just a few moments. but first, governor romney says the president's global vision puts american national security at risk. chief political correspondent carl cameron has specifics. >> at the virginia military institute in measured tone, mitt romney wants his toughest critique yet of obama foreign policy. >> america security and cause of freedom cannot afford four more years like the last four years. >> romney said hope is not a strategy. administration policy weakened the u.s. and its allies while emboldening the enemies. >> with iran closer than ever to nuclear weapons capability with the conflict in syria threatening to destabilize the region and with violent extremists on the march, and with an american ambassador and three others dead, likely at the hands of al-qaeda affiliates, it's clear that the risk of conflict in the region is higher now than when the president took office. >> romney ripped the admin
romney trailed by eight points earlier in month in that poll. we look at the poll numbers and all the important electoral college count in just a few moments. but first, governor romney says the president's global vision puts american national security at risk. chief political correspondent carl cameron has specifics. >> at the virginia military institute in measured tone, mitt romney wants his toughest critique yet of obama foreign policy. >> america security and cause of freedom...
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romney got helped. the race got closer. >> we also had a conservative ideological advantage of conservative in the exit polls. what do you tell folks that look at those numbers? >> this tells you you can't weight your data by party idea. we've said it a million times during the campaign. there's national polls. they had a 15-point swing in party i.d. in two weeks. you get into a problem when they start doing that. what we're seeing is in ohio the effects of the early voting. those people are democratic, and they aren't likely voters, they're definite voters, and that's what's pulling these numbers. >> lee miringhoff, director of the marist poll. always good to see you. we'll see you in a few weeks. >>> vice president biden says he's anticipating a chance to draw a clear contract with the republican proposals at tonight's debate. joining me now, kentucky's democratic governor steve beshear. thanks for being here. >> thanks for coming to the commonwealth of kentucky. >> we love kentucky. as a democrat, yo
romney got helped. the race got closer. >> we also had a conservative ideological advantage of conservative in the exit polls. what do you tell folks that look at those numbers? >> this tells you you can't weight your data by party idea. we've said it a million times during the campaign. there's national polls. they had a 15-point swing in party i.d. in two weeks. you get into a problem when they start doing that. what we're seeing is in ohio the effects of the early voting. those...
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the new "washington post"/abc news poll has president obama leading mitt romney by three points. that's three points among likely voters, 49% to 46%. in that same poll taken two weeks ago before, before the first debate, the president led by just two. he's picked up a point. and the new politico/george washington university battleground poll shows the president with a one-point lead. the same poll taken before the debate had the president with a two-point lead. you see how it's dancing around that knife edge. anyway, both campaigns, both the president's and romney's are into the closing argument phase of the race and both sides are putting out new ads today. first, this ad from the obama campaign. i think it's the best they've ever done, the finest ad i have seen in this campaign so far, and it's positive, thank god. it's narrated by the great morgan freeman, the spencer tracy of our time. let's listen. >> every president inherits challenges. few have faced so many. four years later our enemies have been brought to justice, our heroes are coming home. assembly lines are humming a
the new "washington post"/abc news poll has president obama leading mitt romney by three points. that's three points among likely voters, 49% to 46%. in that same poll taken two weeks ago before, before the first debate, the president led by just two. he's picked up a point. and the new politico/george washington university battleground poll shows the president with a one-point lead. the same poll taken before the debate had the president with a two-point lead. you see how it's...
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the polls. i'm have a nonstop gerald ford party here. >> we should have combined them. >> that's a more useful pursuit, filler of our time than trying to figure out what will happen with these polls. i think that what's happened here is this race is exactly where it's been for months, and that is that it's extremely close. it particularly favors obama narrowly in the swing states. i think a lot of us got carried away when romney was having that terrible time. i think a lot of us got carried away in the other direction when obama flopped in the first debat debate. i think we've seen swings in polls, but the fundamentals of the race haven't changed that dramatically. now maybe obama will do something tomorrow to make it change nor dramatically, but it still seems like the fundamentals are where they've been for a long time now. >> steve, what do you think about this new trend to aggregate the swing state polls andle that will tell you what? >> no. there's a new one out today that takes 10, 12, 15
the polls. i'm have a nonstop gerald ford party here. >> we should have combined them. >> that's a more useful pursuit, filler of our time than trying to figure out what will happen with these polls. i think that what's happened here is this race is exactly where it's been for months, and that is that it's extremely close. it particularly favors obama narrowly in the swing states. i think a lot of us got carried away when romney was having that terrible time. i think a lot of us got...
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in colorado, in one right-leaning poll romney is now up by 3 points. the same showed him losing by 5 before the debate. now he's up by 3. in virginia, the president is ahead by 3 in virginia. that same poll had the president's lead at 5 points before the debate. that shows the president's lead shrinking. in michigan, it's now barack obama by just 3 points. the president had led by 10 last month. now it's down to 3. in ohio today, a poll on the right gives the president an edge of 2 points. that poll in iowa shows a gain for mr. obama, a 5-point gain. in florida, the same poll shows a 4-point swing for romney. he's up by 2 points. so the major fall or minor lift, however, you rattle the number lose, as the overall national polling shifts and the swing state races shift with them, the state where the romney campaign is hoping for the biggest shift of all is in ohio. in modern political history, ohio has been the path to the presidency for republican candidates. if republican candidates win ohio, they win the white house. if mitt romney doesn't win ohio,
in colorado, in one right-leaning poll romney is now up by 3 points. the same showed him losing by 5 before the debate. now he's up by 3. in virginia, the president is ahead by 3 in virginia. that same poll had the president's lead at 5 points before the debate. that shows the president's lead shrinking. in michigan, it's now barack obama by just 3 points. the president had led by 10 last month. now it's down to 3. in ohio today, a poll on the right gives the president an edge of 2 points. that...
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all that will matter from here on on is the performance of obama and romney. i think the public will come away from this slightly more informed than they were before and it was a pretty entertaining debate to watch but it's not the kind of debate that will decide the election. vice presidential debates rarely do. >>. >> it could close the enthusiasm gap. >> but obama has to deliver on that. it can go away just as quickly. >> michael and joan, thank you both. stay with us. much more ahead. >> that's a tough format. it reminded me, i just told neil, of watching a musk objection run across the tundra with somebody underfoot and in this case when it came to style it was paul ryan underfoot because of the moderator allowing biden to do the interrupting, to kind of take control of the conversation. it came to style it was paul it came to style it was paul you can prevent gas with beano meltaways, or treat gas with these after you get it. now that's like sunblock before or sun burn cream later. oh, somebody out there's saying, now i get it! take beano before and ther
all that will matter from here on on is the performance of obama and romney. i think the public will come away from this slightly more informed than they were before and it was a pretty entertaining debate to watch but it's not the kind of debate that will decide the election. vice presidential debates rarely do. >>. >> it could close the enthusiasm gap. >> but obama has to deliver on that. it can go away just as quickly. >> michael and joan, thank you both. stay with...
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and one poll had romney ahead by one. since the debate there, have been three polls. obama ahead by one and fourer, and romney ahead by one. it's a real clear politics average of 0.8 tenths. looks like movement there. look, it's hard to move only in individual states. the individual states mimic to a lesser or greater extent what's happening nationwide. if you look at that, in the real clear politics average before the debates, it was obama leading by 3.1%. after the debates, as of this afternoon, it's romney leading by a point. that's a swing of 4.1%. and leading 48. that bounce will grow a little bit more as we get polls here in the next couple of days. i would not be surprised to see it grow to five points. >> bill: nevada and colorado are two states that mitt romney could win, correct? >> yeah. correct. we've got some polling in colorado. before happened there were four polls. obama won two of them. by three and four points. romney won two by three and four points. since then, we had two polls. the real clear politics average is now swung colorado into romney's co
and one poll had romney ahead by one. since the debate there, have been three polls. obama ahead by one and fourer, and romney ahead by one. it's a real clear politics average of 0.8 tenths. looks like movement there. look, it's hard to move only in individual states. the individual states mimic to a lesser or greater extent what's happening nationwide. if you look at that, in the real clear politics average before the debates, it was obama leading by 3.1%. after the debates, as of this...
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. >> a brand-new poll shows governor romney with a 2-point edge over president obama. >> the day after the debate, the ground swell of romney winning was bigger and bigger. i think that will widen. >> obama's been on defense and he is going down in the polls. >> we have polling data now that shows romney ahead, wherever he is ahead, i think hebe he has been ahead for months or weeks. i don't think it happened overnight. they're all saying rom no is surging. >> he was on the stage with the president of the united states. he looked like he was in command. he was in charge of the entire discussion. i think that's the reason the polls are tightening right now. >> i told you three months ago, two months ago and one month ago, if the election were held on taday twould be a landslide romney itch the faces are the facts. we just saw them come to light in the last debate. with no outside b.s., no biased media, no interruptions or negative political ads, and no damn teleprompters. >> the debate is not just... shifting the polls. the debate is creating momentum. >> this business of just going out
. >> a brand-new poll shows governor romney with a 2-point edge over president obama. >> the day after the debate, the ground swell of romney winning was bigger and bigger. i think that will widen. >> obama's been on defense and he is going down in the polls. >> we have polling data now that shows romney ahead, wherever he is ahead, i think hebe he has been ahead for months or weeks. i don't think it happened overnight. they're all saying rom no is surging. >> he...
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that indicate a closing of the gender gap with mitt romney running better now in the polls anyway with women? >> i've seen different polls. i think polls are all over the map right now. i do this this is what women were needing to hear tonight. what are the differences on particular issues. i actually think what we'll see after this is, again, this gender gap that's been very strong in favor of the president. i think we'll continue to see it to grow. >> thanks for joining us tonight. >> good to see you. >> rachel, back to you. >> thank you, lawrence. there's been a snap poll in terms of results from tonight's debate. cbs news did a flash poll of uncommitted voters on who they think won tonight's debate. 19% of those voters said the debate was a tie. 31% say that paul ryan won. 50% say that vice president biden won. we're going to be joined in a moment -- we've talked to a couple of people who are functioning as surrogates for the obama campaign tonight. we're going to be speaking with a supporter of ryan and romney in just a moment, congresswoman marsha blackburn in a moment. while we
that indicate a closing of the gender gap with mitt romney running better now in the polls anyway with women? >> i've seen different polls. i think polls are all over the map right now. i do this this is what women were needing to hear tonight. what are the differences on particular issues. i actually think what we'll see after this is, again, this gender gap that's been very strong in favor of the president. i think we'll continue to see it to grow. >> thanks for joining us...
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the latest poll showing mitt romney pulling ahead of president obam a. governor romney leading 49% to 47% among likely voters. brit hume is here. nice to see you. there is a lot of enthusiasm by the people in the sound bite. but if you look at democrats, they concede that the momentum is definitely in governor romney's favor. what can -- in president obama -- governor romney's favor. what can president obama do? >> i think he would be wise not to panic because these polls, if you look at the gallup poll is sampled two way, registered voters and president obamma was a ahead. had they asked the questions that they asked to determine who is likely voter and broke out that set of voters, that indicated they were likely voters, you have mitt romney ahead by two percentage points, that's well inside the margin of error. so it could be the other way. so basically, what this is sell tells us is that the race remains exceedingly close, while the debate performance, that even many democrats acknowledge was a win for governor romney and has given him momentum here,
the latest poll showing mitt romney pulling ahead of president obam a. governor romney leading 49% to 47% among likely voters. brit hume is here. nice to see you. there is a lot of enthusiasm by the people in the sound bite. but if you look at democrats, they concede that the momentum is definitely in governor romney's favor. what can -- in president obama -- governor romney's favor. what can president obama do? >> i think he would be wise not to panic because these polls, if you look at...
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since the debate, there have been two polls, romney has been leading b three and t atesngms ramos romney. virginia, same thing. obama up by 2 in two different polls before the debate. after the debate, obama up by 3 in one pl, but romney up by one an three in another poll. north carolin that ste h tin t ry f ms, e r c tighoofore the debate, romney lead of eight tenths of a percent. there has been one poll in north carolina after the debate and it had a romney margin of nine. the obama campaign is spending money in the state, but they've tesiuyy0%mreamount the th're ramping up in every other battle ground state. they can't pull out without if being a news story. >> bill: that's the big indicator, where they allot their television money and north carolina, they prettyuch think bueyll,man w leomngvi idd vni correct? >> correct. and both sides are spending an enormous amount money in two very expensive states and in virginia, for example, if you own a tv station in washington, d.c. market, hiorically you gut?foir r. much in the w of onot sides. >> bill: ohio obviously a vital swing state. ha
since the debate, there have been two polls, romney has been leading b three and t atesngms ramos romney. virginia, same thing. obama up by 2 in two different polls before the debate. after the debate, obama up by 3 in one pl, but romney up by one an three in another poll. north carolin that ste h tin t ry f ms, e r c tighoofore the debate, romney lead of eight tenths of a percent. there has been one poll in north carolina after the debate and it had a romney margin of nine. the obama campaign...
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to a "new york times"/cbs poll, mitt romney leads the president by one point in colorado. last month the president was up one point in that state. in virginia, president obama's lead from last month grew slightly. he's now up 51%-46%. and in wisconsin, the candidates are within the margin of error after the president lost a point from last month and mitt romney gained two. in all three battleground states, voters by double digits believe the economy is getting better compared to the numbers back in july. >> and mark halperin, that may be the big takeaway from this poll. the race is getting much closer. nobody can predict what's going to happen. if you look at a big friend, thoug trend, you've got to look at a lot of americans in these swing states are looking at the economy saying things are getting better. >> it's clearly a huge factor and yet, obviously, the debate from denver is also a huge factor. i think, you know, we look a lot at the margin of error, and these numbers aren't shifting all that much. what's key is in a lot of the states the president is below 50. that
to a "new york times"/cbs poll, mitt romney leads the president by one point in colorado. last month the president was up one point in that state. in virginia, president obama's lead from last month grew slightly. he's now up 51%-46%. and in wisconsin, the candidates are within the margin of error after the president lost a point from last month and mitt romney gained two. in all three battleground states, voters by double digits believe the economy is getting better compared to the...
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polls showing romney down seven, eight, even nine points. in all the battleground states and national polls romney's coming up. that's the momentum the republicans hope to keep in tonight's debate. >> john, is there any evidence right now that this debate -- that last week's debate has put some states in play that presumably weren't in play? >> there's some evidence. that's a fascinating question. this is a key point in the campaign. where are we going to spend ad dollars? where are we going to send the vice president and paul ryan? governor romney has been trying for a long time to put his birth state, michigan, in play. we had a poll suggested that was unlikely to happen. this is after the debate. a reputable polling firm from the state of michigan, a three-point race. we'll watch and see if it lasts. sometimes the bounces dissipate. at the moment the democrats might have to worry more about michigan. another state romney has long wanted to put in play is battleground pennsylvania. been out of reach in most polls. here's one snapshot, but
polls showing romney down seven, eight, even nine points. in all the battleground states and national polls romney's coming up. that's the momentum the republicans hope to keep in tonight's debate. >> john, is there any evidence right now that this debate -- that last week's debate has put some states in play that presumably weren't in play? >> there's some evidence. that's a fascinating question. this is a key point in the campaign. where are we going to spend ad dollars? where are...
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democrats are charging again that the romney/ryan math does not add up. joining me now, republican congressman michael burgess of texas. he's also a member of the tea party caucus. thanks for being with us. >> great. good to be with you, richard. thanks for having me on. >> you bet. defense spending, let's start with that. moderator martha raddatz pressed ryan on that. >> i want to know how you do the math and have this increase in defense spending? >> you don't cut defense by $1 trillion. that's what we are talking about. >> what national security issue justify an increase? >> we are going to cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines, 120 cargo planes. >> drawing down? >> don't cut the military by $1 trillion, not increase it by $1 million, don't cut it by $1 trillion. >> congressman burgess, what the democrats are saying romney would spend over $2 trillion more in defense than obama while at the same time, he's promising to balance the budget. how does that math add up? >> well, look, the first thing of course that has to be faced is january 2nd law signed by
democrats are charging again that the romney/ryan math does not add up. joining me now, republican congressman michael burgess of texas. he's also a member of the tea party caucus. thanks for being with us. >> great. good to be with you, richard. thanks for having me on. >> you bet. defense spending, let's start with that. moderator martha raddatz pressed ryan on that. >> i want to know how you do the math and have this increase in defense spending? >> you don't cut...
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. >> hey, peter, according to that latest poll, romney down just a few points there behind president obama in ohio, inching closer by the day. what's different about the romney campaign strategy in the buckeye state right now versus that strategy maybe say two weeks ago? >> reporter: i think it's pretty clear that romney feels much more confident. he feels much more loose as he interacts with voters and delivers his stump speech. it's because of that debate performance about ten days or sore now. when we were on the trail for months, craig, it was very clear that people were here because they did not like president obama. increasingly they're here because they believe mitt romney is the guy that can beat him and lead this country. whether it's strategic or not, that's the biggest take away. stay technologically on the ground they're flooding ohio and other swing states with advertising, spending, restore our future. that's the primary super pac that has been supporting mitt romney from the start. there's some reporting today that they're now spending $14 million across nine swing sta
. >> hey, peter, according to that latest poll, romney down just a few points there behind president obama in ohio, inching closer by the day. what's different about the romney campaign strategy in the buckeye state right now versus that strategy maybe say two weeks ago? >> reporter: i think it's pretty clear that romney feels much more confident. he feels much more loose as he interacts with voters and delivers his stump speech. it's because of that debate performance about ten...
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the president led romney by eight points in that same poll just under a month ago. we'll have more on that a little later in the program. mitt romney may have been hoping to widen that lead with a much anticipated speech at the virginia military institute today that articulated his approach on foreign policy, focusing primarily on u.s. relations in the middle east. the g.o.p. contender portrayed the president as naive in his dealings with our enemies inand enempty with our friends. >> i know the president hopes for a safer freer and more prosperous middle east applied with us. i share this hope. but hope is not a strategy. it is our responsibility and the responsibility of the president to use america's greatest power to shape history not to lead from behind, leaving our destiny at the mercy of events. >> eliot: romney went on to explain what he would do to assert american leadership. >> romney: i'll put the leaders of iran on notice that the united states and our friends and allies will prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. i'll support the libyan
the president led romney by eight points in that same poll just under a month ago. we'll have more on that a little later in the program. mitt romney may have been hoping to widen that lead with a much anticipated speech at the virginia military institute today that articulated his approach on foreign policy, focusing primarily on u.s. relations in the middle east. the g.o.p. contender portrayed the president as naive in his dealings with our enemies inand enempty with our friends. >> i...
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mitt romney and barack obama really neck and neck whether you're looking at the national polls or the battleground state polls. >> yeah, that's right. there's no question about it, joe. and you can see that the -- as we've gotten a little bit further away from that first debate where president obama performed so poorly, you can see that the lingering effects of it have been a little less than we might have thought before. there's no question mitt romney helped himself a little bit in terms of his likability, in terms of conservative and republican enthusiasm. the race in terms of the national numbers with back to being, as you said, joe, a jump ball. i keep looking at that ohio number at the end. when you think about the closer we get to election day, the more we have to think about what are the paths to 270 electoral votes. that ohio number at five is still a big problem for romney if he's going to try to get all the way there. >> richard wolffe, the bottom line is if mitt romney cannot win ohio, and at this point you've got early voting going in, absentee voting going in, that's hap
mitt romney and barack obama really neck and neck whether you're looking at the national polls or the battleground state polls. >> yeah, that's right. there's no question about it, joe. and you can see that the -- as we've gotten a little bit further away from that first debate where president obama performed so poorly, you can see that the lingering effects of it have been a little less than we might have thought before. there's no question mitt romney helped himself a little bit in...
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. >> 18 point swing in one poll is huge. >> if we were to see that number confirmed by other poll, romney would be the favorite but it's not what we're seeing in the bulk of data. sometimes there can be a tendency to take a big headline number, when we're getting 15 or 20 polls released. if romney is doing that well among women, we will see the result confirmed by other polls quite soon. >> his people also believe that he did well from the debate independents, men, the elderly in particular. that's what their own internal polling is showing. would you agree with that? >> in the debate he was able to reposition himself toward the center of the electorate. last time we talked about, this is something very strange where romney has been playing to the base, even to some extent at his convention, he was doing that. but he shifted towards the center and obama was a little bit feeble in trying to rebut that. that's an important factor. historically candidates who can appear to be in the middle of the electorate tend to win and those on the wings tend to lose. that was a big strategic gain romney
. >> 18 point swing in one poll is huge. >> if we were to see that number confirmed by other poll, romney would be the favorite but it's not what we're seeing in the bulk of data. sometimes there can be a tendency to take a big headline number, when we're getting 15 or 20 polls released. if romney is doing that well among women, we will see the result confirmed by other polls quite soon. >> his people also believe that he did well from the debate independents, men, the elderly...